David Grubbs hosts a conversation with Michial Farmer and Nathan Gilmour about Cain, the first man born of a woman in Genesis. A figure of subhuman, superhuman, and otherwise inhuman terror through much of literature, Cain contains multitudes, sometimes existing as the figure of urban corruption and other times as the swamp-dweller who shuns cities. Among the texts and other realities discussed are Genesis, City of God, East of Eden, Hebrews, 1 John, and Bruce Springsteen.
