Nathan Gilmour moderates a discussion with David Grubbs and Michial Farmer about the divisions, history, and purposes of what folks call Classical Music. On the way the discussion digs into questions of how symphonic or operatic music stands sacred and why all three Humanists hold up classical music as worthy of a place within a Christian liberal arts education. Among the composers and artifacts we discuss are J.S. Bach, St. Hatthew's Passion, Beethoven's 9th, The Magic Flute, Plato, and Frederic Chopin.