David Grubbs moderates a conversation with Michial Farmer and Nathan Gilmour about the history, role, and changing face of libraries. Our conversation involves, among other things, Farmer debunking yet another myth about the American founders and Gilmour telling a story involving Touret's Syndrome and a colostomy bag. Among the writers, libraries, andother interesting bits we discuss are Bede, Ben Franklin, academic databases, public libraries, seminary libraries, and the Internet's relationships with modern libraries.