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A conversation with showrunners/writers Julie Plec (The Vampire Diaries, The Originals) and Gina Fattore (Dare Me, Californication) about exploring the darkness within and without, treading the line between hero and anti-hero, and why unscrupulous characters and worlds remain so compelling -- even at their worst.

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This conversation was recorded live at ATX TV Festival Season 12 (June 1-4, 2023) in Austin, TX.

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