Another day, another u-turn. Liz Truss met with her Cabinet today and is reportedly considering u-turning on the pensions triple lock. Are ministers heading for more ‘lengthy discussions’ on public spending? Should we brace ourselves for resignations?

Also on the podcast, as Hunt looks at which departments to cut, what could this mean for the NHS?

Katy Balls speaks to James Forsyth and Isabel Hardman. 

Produced by Oscar Edmondson.