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Gordon and Magnus have a discussion about the 2018 New York Times article "The Maps That Show That City vs. Country Is Not Our Political Fault Line" by Collin Woodard, which is, itself, discussing Woodard's book "American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America.” The two discuss how accurate the distinctions are, and why these distinctions matter, especially in regards to forming a cohesive "Amerikaner" identity.

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