The fascinating info starts early in this episode, when the guest, Sefra Alexandra, starts talking about onions and how they are tied to ”The Great Gatsby.” Then she gets into her link to the legendary author of an already-AMX'd book, Tom Brown, Jr. (Sefra was a student of Brown’s first student). And how yellow ants taste like citrus! Sefra actually drops the phrase ”mycologically radical” and talks about the ”mycelial network” that is the Internet of the Forest. There’s also a Walmart of the Forest! Then she gives instructions for making Sacred Fire, including a bit of a song to sing when you do. And more! There certainly has never been a more valuable episode of this podcast. If Sefra’s appearance here can turn even one person toward nature and the type of work that she does—saving seeds and guarding wilderness—the impact will be priceless.