Against a bustling background at the Spartan Podfest, two former UFC fighters talk combat, coffee and more. ”The Dean of Mean” Keith Jardine made a difficult but successful transition from the octagon to entrepreneurship and acting in projects including ”Breaking Bad,” ”Hawaii Five-0,” ”John Wick,” ”MacGyver,” ”Godless,” ”Shameless,” and ”Bird Box” He and The Spaniard relate over rejection that ”tears your soul” and ”rips your heart out” while employing ”a knack for suffering” (all phrases that Keith uses) and working toward a peak moment rather than looking back at it. Plus KJ describes trading compliments with (literally) a huge movie star!
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