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[Sometimes technology doesn't work in our favor. This audio in this episode is one of those moments. - Producer Jeremy]

In this episode of Sat Chats, we welcome Susie—mom of Marissa (Ep. 56) and Michael (Ep. 66), and a North Carolina state legislature staffer with a surprising passion for risk-taking and public good. Susie shares how her blue-collar upbringing, stint in penny stocks, and years of responsible 401(k) planning shaped her financial worldview, and how Bitcoin just might fit into that picture.

She breaks down the newly passed House bill in North Carolina allowing up to 5% of the state retirement fund to be invested in digital assets, and explains why that makes her feel more secure, not less. Plus: how her faith, work ethic, and belief in the average American align with Bitcoin’s core promise.

We cover:

✅ Why a small allocation in Bitcoin can grow to dominate your portfolio

✅ How public servants are quietly helping Bitcoin adoption

✅ Whether the dollar’s “In God We Trust” legacy connects to Bitcoin

✅ What it means for the middle class if Bitcoin becomes standard

✅ Why she almost didn’t stack... but ended up choosing sats

Stay tuned for a fiery hummus tasting, a “Beast Mode” moment from Chris, and a post-show roast aimed squarely at her son Michael (we’re coming for you).

Susie’s daughter choose the sats, her son other the dirty cash—which did she choose???

Chapters:

00:00 Episode Intro/Guest Welcome

01:54 Celebrating Milestones and Community Engagement

02:28 Women and Financial Independence

03:43 The Role of Bitcoin in Art and Culture

06:44 Navigating Personal Experiences with Bitcoin

07:59 Understanding Bitcoin and Its Value

10:00 Investment Strategies and Risk Tolerance

13:20 Legislative Developments in Cryptocurrency

15:55 The Future of Digital Assets in North Carolina

20:22 The Legitimacy of Bitcoin vs. Other Cryptocurrencies

22:27 The Power of Bitcoin in Retirement Portfolios

24:19 The Educational Journey of Bitcoin Understanding

25:15 Bitcoin's 24/7 Nature and Its Historical Context

27:01 Faith, Stewardship, and Bitcoin's Role in Society

28:37 The Impact of Bitcoin on American Debt

30:48 Bitcoin as a Solution for Economic Challenges

32:41 The Future of Bitcoin and Its Potential for Change

37:40 Understanding Bitcoin's Value and Security

45:08 The Journey to Bitcoin Ownership

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