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In the opening episode of Refined, Jonathan confronts one of the most dangerous deceptions facing the modern church — cultural Christianity.
With honesty and conviction, he challenges listeners to move beyond words, performance, and religious habits into a life of authentic obedience to Christ.

Jesus’ words — “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven…” — expose the hollow comfort of surface-level faith.
This episode is both a warning and an invitation: to let God’s refining fire reveal what’s real, remove what’s fake, and restore what’s pure.

If your faith has felt routine, heavy, or shallow — this conversation will awaken your soul to the beauty of surrendered discipleship. Resources & Links