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We talked about a shared history and Joan Didion's 1970 novel, Play It as It Lays. We discussed Frank Perry's film adaptation from 1972 starring Tuesday Weld and Anthony Perkins.

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Here is that book I mentioned: The Well Played Game by Bernard De Koven

Ashley mentioned the short story collection by Ted Chiang, Stories of Your Life and Others