In this episode, David and Sophie explore the disciples’ growing rivalry as they argue among themselves about which of them is the greatest. Jesus responds not with rebuke but with redefinition and shows that true greatness comes through humility and service. He places a child among them as his living example, inviting his followers to take on the openness, vulnerability, and curiosity of a child.
David and Sophie reflect on what it means to be like a child, to receive a child, and to resist the pull of competition within the life of faith. The conversation moves from the disciples’ arguments with each other to John’s attempt to stop someone casting out demons in Jesus’ name. Jesus continually points them away from rivalry and toward celebrating the wider work of God in the world.
