This podcast is produced by Leaf Media and powered by Greenly. đ±Interviewed by Sam-Smith Stanley, Greenlyâs UK Climate Engagement Manager.
In this episode of the podcast, @Sam is joined by @Mike Berners-Lee, professor and sustainability expert, founder of Small World Consulting, as well as the author of âHow Bad Are Bananas?â, âThere Is No Planet Bâ, and his latest book, âA Climate of Truthâ.
Mike highlights the urgency of overcoming dishonesty in both policy and business, and how a cultural shift toward valuing truthfulness is essential for meaningful climate action.
He also reflects on the failure of COP negotiations, and discusses how to stare reality in the face and still remain hopeful amidst a polycrisis.
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đ Mikeâs Oxford Union Debate: This House Has No Faith in Net Zero Before 2035 https://youtu.be/H2DDt9pULWU?si=luuNhUlem3L0OTLk
đ Kyoto, a new political thriller now playing in London's West End: https://www.rsc.org.uk/kyoto/
Chapters
(0:00) Intro
(3:31) Mikeâs path from physics to sustainability
(6:23) Small World Consulting and the necessity of carbon accounting
(8:44) Writing for the evolving realities of the climate: How Bad Are Bananas, Thereâs No Planet B
(10:50) A Climate of Truth
(16:09) The role of dishonesty in blocking climate progress
(24:07) Is the UK on track for Net Zero in 2050?
(28:00) What truthful looks like in climate action
(32:00) The failure of COP & the normalization of dishonesty in politics
(40:49) How AI fits into climate solutions
(46:15) How to communicate the climate crisis & empower individuals
(54:55) Questions for Kier Starmer, Ed Miliband, Donald Trump, and voters before the general election