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It took us fourteen episodes but we invite the great Jesse Hawken (JUNK FILTER) to be our guest as we have finally arrived at a REAL GROWN-UP MOVIE on this project: Sydney Pollack's political thriller THE INTERPRETER., a movie that is basically completely forgotten now because it is not really equipped to deal with the political implications of its general premise, but a handsomely made, professional thriller starring two compelling actors that a lot of people paid money to see on original release, more than a lot of higher-profile films released around it.

We practice our Afrikaans accents, discuss the film's well-meaning but muddled racial politics, its waste of Catherine Keener, and its insane status as the only film to ever get permission to film inside the United Nations chambers, a status is maintains despite having a climax where an extremely famous blonde woman points a gun at a pretend version of Robert Mugabe.

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