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In Part 2 of Jay’s conversation with childhood best friend Stephen McConnell, they veer from personal to planetary—unpacking the wild world of artificial intelligence. Steve’s not just a guy with good takes—he’s a professor of media and AI at UNC and NYU. Jay asks the questions we’re all thinking: What is AI really doing? Can we trust the TikTok algorithm? Is ChatGPT just Clippy with ambition?

It’s a hilarious, honest, and surprisingly hopeful look at the future of tech, teaching, and what it means to be human in a world getting way too smart for its own good.