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Dr. Owen Muir, MD and Dr. Carlene MacMillan, MD pull back the curtain on just how massive — and messed up — the healthcare system really is. From United Healthcare’s astronomical profits to the inner workings of Pharmacy Benefit Managers, they break it down in a way that’s sharp, honest, and easy to understand. They dive into: Why the idea that insurers want to “save money” is a giant lie Real-world (and space-sized) comparisons of healthcare profits.

A current lawsuit raising big questions about conflicts of interest in the system. Why we don’t need new breakthroughs — just better access to the ones we already have. What it’s like being married doctors navigating work, life, and the messy in-between. This episode is part exposé, part real-life convo — and totally worth a listen if you're curious (or furious) about how healthcare actually works.

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