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In this special episode, Dr. Laura Targownik (co-host of the TransNormal Podcast) sits down with adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Tyler Black, chronic disease epidemiologist Dr. Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, and newspaper columnist Mr. Adam Zivo to discuss the science and politics of pediatric gender affirming care, with specific attention to the controversy surrounding the recently published McMaster University systematic reviews and the subsequent political fallout