Episode 4: The Parts of Us (Part 1)
In this episode, Jon and Tom dive into the transformative framework of Internal Family Systems (IFS)—a lens that’s helped them understand why they, and those they lead, show up the way they do.
By exploring the “parts” within us—protectors, exiles, managers—they unpack how our internal dynamics shape our relationships, leadership, and even our spirituality.
This is the first of a two-part conversation that brings compassion, curiosity, and clarity to the complexity of being human, especially in the context of Church life and spiritual formation.
