Two catch-up conversations with two great guests this week.



First up Phil Bridges from The Mind Map, a one stop shop that was created after Phil was inspired to try and make a difference after his own battles with mental ill health.



Phil discusses the changing nature of the conversation around mental health, but wanting to create a sustainable solution to people's problems.



Meanwhile, Lee Pennington from Open Door  discusses how their services have had to change during the pandemic, but also how ideas and models started since last March can be part of the future beyond coronavirus.



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