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Nobody gets to the other side of fear without walking through it first.

I sat down with Joseph Schmitt — Navy veteran, nonprofit founder, beekeeper, and author of arc of HUMANITY — and we talked about what it actually takes to stop letting fear make your decisions for you.

We got into why fear is hardwired into us as a survival mechanism, how we've been trained to compromise because of it, and what it really means to stop negotiating with your own potential. Joseph also unpacks how meaning isn't given to you — it's something you assign. And why confronting historical trauma isn't optional if you want to move forward.

Plus: what 50,000 bees taught him about presence, calm, and the ruthless beauty of a system that doesn't negotiate.

Raw, honest, and the kind of conversation that sticks with you.

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MOTIVATION N'AT is the podcast where real life gets talked about.Hosted by Natalie Bulger. New episodes every Sunday.

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📖 Get arc of HUMANITY: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/arc-HUMANITY-Weeks-Clarity-Agency-ebook/dp/B0GDFPWH9V⁠

📩 Connect with Joseph: ⁠joseph@xpdshn.org⁠

🌐 Joseph's website: ⁠https://xpdshn.org/⁠

📲 Follow me:Instagram: @Sincerely__NatalieYouTube: @motivation-nat-pod