Contennt warning: This episode discusses death, including the death of a fellow inmate by execution because of the death penalty and the death of our guests husband to cancer. While this episode, and all episodes of Fierce Conversations with Toby, are designed to facilitate healing for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.
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“I would have never done the things I did when I got home. Never. If it weren't for what I had learned and the people I had met there [in prison].”
- Lisa Nordike, today’s guest, former cellmate with Toby Dorr, and the real “George” from the bestselling memoir Living With Conviction
Some of our fierce topics today:
[00:00] Introduction and Guest Introduction
[03:02] Discussing Time Spent in Prison
[07:16] Taking in Foster Children
[10:20] Educational and Career Paths of Foster Children
[13:11] Bonding and Friendships in Prison
[14:38] Remembering Friends Who Passed Away
[17:19] Lisa's Execution and Coping
[18:05] Recalling Light Moments in Prison
[21:12] Lisa's Philanthropic Efforts and Love for Kids
[25:00] Outro
About Lisa Nordike:
Lisa was one of Toby's closest friends inside prison and was a major character in her memoir Living With Conviction, where she was known as “George”. After Lisa served her prison sentence, she took in a dozen foster teenagers whose parents were incarcerated. Lisa is proof that it is possible to rebuild your life and even become a beacon of hope to others.
Links mentioned in this episode:
Lisa Nordike:
Lisa does not have a public profile, but contact can be made through Toby at toby@tobydorr.com.
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Credits:
Created by Toby Dorr.
Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.
Theme song:
Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist
Caroline Parody: Piano
Tony Ventura: Bass
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