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What exactly is “Struggle Love”? It’s the kind of romance that too often plays out in film — full of conflict, pain, and endurance disguised as passion. But does it really deserve to be called love?

In this bold and insightful episode of Interludes, host Valarie “The Voice” Johnson welcomes Joy and KC the Alchemist, co-hosts of the podcast 3BC (Three Black Chicks), for an honest conversation about the portrayal of Black love in film and the seductive myths that shape how we see relationships on screen.

Val also celebrates the birthday of the Queen of Soul, whose life and artistry are honored in her own Genius mini-series.

A sharp and soulful discussion about storytelling, self-worth, and reclaiming the narrative of love — beyond the struggle.