In this slightly unhinged episode, SJ and Kay dig into sex drive and why it’s a somewhat silly, misunderstood concept. They walk through more serious theories like the ABC model (not the Jackson 5), the motivation–incentive framework, and, of course, Emily Nagoski’s accelerators and brakes...but with some major detours into less scientific territory, including Brie from Desperate Housewives and Kay’s obsession with the Unwrap Me Christmas novella by Natalia Lourose. They challenge the idea that men are constantly thinking about sex, poke holes in evolutionary narratives that try to box desire by gender, and explore why so many women hit their sexual stride in their late 20s to 40s. The conversation veers into Santa smut, the cautionary tale of using a Christmas ornament as a DIY sex toy (please do not), and why masturbation might actually be a better indicator of libido than partnered sex. With their signature mix of humor, research, and chaos, the hosts may or may not leave you with a better understanding of sex drive. ..Only guarantee from listening is that you won't look a nutcracker ornament the same way again. Cheers!
