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For Tracy Walder, the easy path has never been an option. Raised in a family with generations

of military service, she understood from a young age the importance of giving back. In college,

she studied history and took opportunities to gain experience as they came, but couldn’t quite

find the right fit for her skills. One day, she saw a recruiter for the CIA on her college campus.

She handed in her resume and by the time she graduated, she had a job offer on the table. That

daring decision, made while she was still a student, ultimately shaped much of her professional

career.

She spent the next several years working with the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center before moving

on to the FBI, where she was a special agent focusing on Chinese Counterintelligence

operations The hours were long and the work challenging. At some points along the way, she

experienced adversity and harassment, but Walder persevered. On this week’s episode of The

Simple Talk, host Wayne McCullough speaks with Walder about the ups and downs and the

nuggets of wisdom she’s learned along the way. The path might not be easy, but with

confidence and humility, you can put your knowledge and skills to work in service of a better

future.

This Week’s Takeaways:

-Be proactive about finding opportunities

-Have confidence in yourself

-Don’t leave situations without a reason

-Push the boundaries of your comfort zone

-Use your knowledge to give back to others

Quotes:

“I believe fully that how men and women are treated really starts at the top.” -Tracy Walder

“I was bullied.The amount of bullying that I faced was astronomical. … I spent a lot of my life

hating myself and not being very confident. So, I think at 16, I would have told myself to have

more confidence.” -Tracy Walder

“Working out has always been my therapy. I think, from being at the FBI, I would just go on

crazy long runs by myself with no one else.” -Tracy Walder

“The thing I always tell (my daughter) -- because this is what I always told myself -- is be brave.

Be brave, be brave, be brave. That’s always my message to her.” -Tracy Walder

Contact:

You can find out more about Tracy Walder online at https://www.tracywalder.com/. You can also

follow her on Twitter @tracy_walder and Instagram @TheUnexpectedSpy. Be sure to check out

her new book, The Unexpected Spy: From the CIA to the FBI, My Secret Life Taking Down

Some of the World’s Most Notorious Terrorists, available online, in stores, and as an audiobook.

Mentioned This Week:

-Girl Security, a nonprofit dedicated to closing the gender gap in national security through

training and mentoring support for girls: https://www.girlsecurity.org/