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In episode 14 of Two Tokens Short, hosts Robert De La Rosa and Mitchell Newberger sit down with Shintaro Okamoto, founder of Okamoto Studio, a New York–based collective redefining the art of ice.

Shintaro shares his journey from growing up in Alaska to building one of the most respected ice studios in the world — where craftsmanship, design, and engineering meet ephemerality. The conversation explores:

They discuss how AI tools can accelerate design inspiration while sometimes creating unrealistic client expectations, and how Okamoto’s studio balances innovation with tradition. The result is a fascinating look at how art, nature, and technology intertwine — and what it means to create beauty that disappears.

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