What you’ll hear in this episode:
- Tero’s story: 13th-generation Finnish farm kid, to forager, chem/nutrition studies, global traveler, and founder of Four Sigmatic
- How (and why) he launched the original mushroom coffee and what the business looks like today
- “Deprogramming” beliefs: military winters, non-duality, psychedelics used with intention, and humor as a spiritual teacher
- Science ↔ spirituality: CERN, vibrations, the “big electron,” and the danger of certainty
- Material success vs meaning; awareness, attachment, and practical spirituality
- Longevity culture, alcohol/sugar, and why “basics” (sleep, breath, nature, nutrients, love) win
- Kids, AI, and the next decade: hope, caution, and adaptability
About Love Conquers Fear:
In an era of exponentially evolving AI and robotics, one question looms: Will humanity make it? Love Conquers Fear is where leadership meets love, technology serves humanity, and vision becomes action. Host, Brett Alexander Hurt, tech entrepreneur and investor, sits down with some of the world’s most influential people to ask: Will we unite to create the Age of Abundance for All? These conversations are calls to action, awakening leaders everywhere to rise and help humanity choose the Light.
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About Tero Isokauppila:
Tero Isokauppila is the Finnish-born founder of Four Sigmatic, the original mushroom-coffee brand. Raised on his family’s farm (in the family since at least 1619), he grew up foraging mushrooms and berries, later studying chemistry and nutrition and coaching pro athletes, where adaptogenic fungi became a secret edge. After living in eight countries, he launched Four Sigmatic in 2012; today the company’s functional coffees and proteins lead the category across major U.S. retailers. A bestselling author on mushrooms and a frequent long-form educator, Tero now splits time between Texas and summers on the family farm in Finland with his wife and three children—advocating for simple, nature-rooted health, and a grounded spiritual life.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Preview
01:02 – Brett on Dr. David Hawkins and How to Surrender to God
03:23 – We only understand 4% of the universe
08:03 – Welcoming Tero Isokauppila
09:59 – Finnish farm roots and foraging childhood
11:38 – The beauty and hardship of Nordic winters
12:47 – Early tech meets nature: Nokia across the lake
13:58 – “Mushrooms chose me” — Four Sigmatic begins
15:28 – Passion over outcomes: building a lifestyle brand
16:13 – Four Sigmatic’s growth to $300M and a global category
18:24 – Podcasts as free education and modern storytelling
22:10 – “Everything I believed wasn’t mine” — awakening through deprogramming
23:48 – Non-duality, psychedelics, and language as limitation
28:44 – Love as the highest vibration
33:13 – The billionaire tragedy and what success really means
35:30 – Lessons from martial arts and humility
37:24– Embodying suffering to end suffering
40:54 – Travel, illusions, and culture as mirrors
43:12 – CERN physicists and the “Big Electron” analogy
47:45 – Fear of death and our craving for control
53:51 – Water older than the sun — time’s humility
55:34 – Angels, aliens, and returning to presence
57:43 – Psychedelics as sacred tools, not escapes
58:39 – Alcohol as a “dumb molecule” and cultural addiction
1:06:39 – Fear contracts, love expands — practical spirituality
1:10:21 – Conscious indulgence vs purity culture
1:13:09 – Gut neurons and the body’s intelligence
1:15:36 – The deathbed-regret thought experiment
1:16:47 – The Age of Abundance for All — the next 10–15 years
1:18:43 – Kids and the new normal of AI
1:30:02 – What kids should really study now
1:33:54 – The basics win: breath, sleep, nature, love
1:37:40 – Four Sigmatic at Costco
