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This episode kicks off the “States’ Rights” arc of the Chaos or Unity series — exploring how American governance walks the line between independence and interdependence.

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In this episode, Carl and Vanessa peel back the layers of what it actually means to be a “state” in the United States. From the Articles of Confederation to the 10th Amendment, they trace how state sovereignty evolved — and how that independence continues to collide with federal power today. Through humor, history, and a few well-timed tangents (including undercooked military meals and Trump’s platform shoes), they make sense of one of America’s most misunderstood foundations: the balance between chaos and unity.

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