Sometimes you have to laugh just to stay sane.
In this episode of Crayon Box Politics, Carl sits down with journalist and podcaster Bob Gatty, host of Lean to the Left, for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation about the political moment we’re living through and why so many Americans feel like they’re watching reality bend in real time.
From media narratives and political tribalism to executive power, polling trends, and the strange new normal of American politics, this episode balances serious insight with the kind of “you seeing this too?” energy that makes tough conversations bearable.
It’s not a debate.
It’s not a meltdown.
It’s two people paying attention and trying to make sense of the absurd.