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In this episode of Thinking Through…, Dr. Allison Lester talks with Dan Fitzpatrick about what it feels like to live inside a moment where AI keeps arriving faster than our ability to make sense of it. Rather than focusing on tools or predictions, they explore the widening mindset gap between those immersed in AI’s rapid evolution and those encountering it from the outside.

The conversation moves through hype cycles, shock moments, and why AI may behave less like a single innovation and more like an underlying infrastructure reshaping daily life. They also wrestle with digital equity, access, and what happens when speed outpaces support. Along the way, they unpack why “AI and cheating” keeps surfacing in education and what that debate reveals about trust, assessment, and learning itself.

This episode invites listeners to slow down, sit with uncertainty, and think more carefully about how we adapt to AI without losing curiosity, agency, or human connection.