Today’s word is Immersive - and Kimberly and Cara fully sink into it. What begins as soothing images of hot springs and bubble baths unfolds into a rich, wide-ranging dialogue about permaculture, stacked function, curiosity, boundaries, leadership, failure, and the nervous system’s love of comfort. They explore how meaning gets diluted when powerful ideas are turned into task lists or memes, why slowing down is essential for real insight, and how curiosity lives at the overlap of logic and creativity. Along the way, they unpack hustle culture, failure as expertise, leadership without command-and-control, and what it means to truly immerse yourself in learning rather than rushing to outcomes. Thoughtful, spicy, and expansive - this episode invites you to slow down, observe, and stay curious.
