Ryan explored the concepts of religious and spiritual abuse, focusing primarily on religious abuse. He discussed how religious abuse involves using religious doctrines, scriptures, or authority to bully or harass others, often under the guise of helping or saving them. Ryan emphasized that while the abuser's intentions may seem good, the underlying motivation is often pleasure derived from exerting power or control. He also highlighted how religious abuse can occur not only through formal religious authorities but also by individuals within the laity who use religion to shame or humiliate others. Ryan concluded by stating that religious abuse is characterized by focusing excessively on rules and laws to the detriment of individuals' spiritual growth and that he is open to further discussion and potential changes in his understanding of these concepts.
