This episode is about debate. We explain how there are two opposing modes of debate: doing it to seek the truth vs. doing it to "win", named Mode 1 and 2 respectively. For Mode 2, a.k.a argument, we explore how people often win by strawmanning their opponents position or by nitpicking on semantics or technicalities, and how this pulls the arguers deeper into their own echo chambers (see Ep.11 for more)! We contrast this with Mode 1, a.k.a discussion, which is more collaborative and lets both sides learn from eachother, but is also inherently fragile. As expected, we get meta and evaluate our own episodes on this podcast to see whether they're more like arguments or discussions. Finally, we admit that despite all the flaws with arguments, they can be kind of fun.
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