Quite a time gap between these two ladies but nonetheless fascinating. Katie tackles a modern day journalist. Michael gets real with a nun from medieval times.
Hildegard
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Hildegard
https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/eascfa/dinner_party/place_settings/hildegarde_of_bingen
https://www.discogs.com/artist/743697-Hildegard-Von-Bingen
Gwen Ifill
https://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/profile/gwen-ifill
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/press-releases/pbs-newshour-co-anchor-gwen-ifill-dies-61
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/gwen-ifill-journalist-who-became-staple-of-public-affairs-tv-shows-dies-at-61/2016/11/14/2ae4c106-aa91-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d7825a02f67b"
