Mendengar: Realita selama masa pandemi ini berbeda bagi semua orang. Shavira dan Esta kedatangan tamu spesial, Joddy Permadi, host "Podcast Belakang Rumah" yang mengutarakan pengalamannya dirumahkan dan melihatnya sebagai sesuatu yang positif, menjaga hubungan selama pandemi, dan pentingnya memiliki support system.
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Mendengar: Everyone's reality during this pandemic is unique. This time around, Shavira and Esta are joined by Joddy Permadi, host of "Podcast Belakang Rumah" where he tells his experience of being let go from his job and seeing it as a silver lining, how to maintain relationships during the pandemic, and the importance of having a support system.
