I met with Lydia Neilsen and Anne Freiwald of Vital Cycles, in Anne’s garden, to discuss the power of teaching and training ourselves to the rhythms of the earth. Additionally, both Anne and Lydia share a deep love of song and are song carriers that help humans live our days in literal harmony. You can find several bits of song woven throughout the podcast as short and sweet interludes between each interview question. The songs come from a variety of West Coast songwriters like Debbi-Narga Brown, Molly Hartwell, Mo Washburn, and Osprey Flies the Nest, among others. All of them are sung by Lydia and Anne, who, in addition to their permaculture offerings, facilitate song circles in the Santa Cruz area. I am really excited to be sharing a podcast about permaculture. I have a rich history of learning about plants and ecology, but it wasn’t until I stumbled upon permaculture that I really felt like I had come home. There’s something really synergistic about consciously designing our lives and the spaces we inhabit to be supportive of life.