In this episode Douglas talks to artist and Humanist Martha Knox about her woodcut print art, her performance art called "Submit", the state of the art community during the pandemic, and why selling her art is not her goal. Martha, who had been very active in various freethought organizations including helping found the Secular Student Alliance 20 years ago, explains why disillusionment made her step back. But she still considers herself a secular Humanist.
01:00 The artist and her art
11:21 Submit and why selling art is not her goal
26:00 Freethought groups and disillusionment
