In this episode, Ian steel man's one compelling argument against the DNP-prepared clinical investigator. Namely, the fact that DNPs are intended to be prepared as broad-based clinical and practice-change experts, which does not afford for the siloing which must occur for PhD-prepared scholars to be effectives scientist-researchers in their content areas of expertise. This was recorded for the sake of those listeners who may have felt over the last few episodes that Ian may not fully understand some of the more nuanced and important reasons to suppress this notion - albeit just one of the different arguments against it. He concludes by talking about why he feels these should not take away from the DNP-prepared scholars opportunities to participate in the research conversation, independently. Thanks for listening.