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We’re still isolating. So, we Zoom’d with Cales’ good pal Navin Ramaswaran — director, editor, classic cocktail consumer extraordinaire — to chat about post-set blues, how he chooses his creative teams and prepares as both a commercial and narrative film director, and how he celebrated his 40th birthday in isolation with a bartender wife! Y’also get to hear just how gross some of Cales’ shut-in meals have been and, honestly, it’s wholly due to laziness -- she had proper meal foods.

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Theme music by Tessa Gooden & Petr Balaz

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