Conversation between Jim Quigley, CJ McMurry, & Wes Pinkley about current events, addictions treatment and ministry.
0:00 Pastor Wes Pinkley
1:26 The 215th Anniversary of his church
2:55 How Wes started doing Biblical Counseling
7:52 Wes: "If sin is the problem, Christ is the cure"
12:08 CJ on going through addiction treatments, learning transformation
18:48 Jim on his "vendetta against 12-Step programs", legalism/works vs. transformation
28:04 Wes: "Christ Steps Toward Us"
31:00 CJ: "If you get your whole life straightened up, and you still go to hell... that bothers me"
34:17 Jim: "We make terrible saviors..."
35:57 Wes: "Open my eyes to see what You're already doing..."
