Kat and Liberty have a fear of running and want to get over it.
They have an honest conversation with Leo who helps them overcome fears of running.
Leo tells us there's a runner in everyone no matter how far or fast we choose to go. We talk about the benefits for mind and body and why the comparison is the thief of joy.
Leo is a qualified UK Athletics Coach in Running Fitness, and writes for Podium Runner and Men's Fitness, he spent two decades reporting on elite sport for news outlets including the Evening Standard, Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph, Independent and ESPN, discussing training and performance with some of the best coaches and athletes in the world.
In addition to leading the company and guiding individuals to stronger, happier running, he's helping to lead a running and mental wellness scheme for teenagers: All Girls Can. He's also first aid trained and an England Athletics mental health champion.