A nose hair in the butter, Halloumi in Milo, Louise’s kids not liking her Nigella Lawson dinners, broadening the palette, homosexuality and religion, Reggie Yates, the conservative side of London, modernised fairytales where the prince falls in love with the prince, True Crime podcasts, serial killers, nature versus nurture, and more. Thanks for tuning in to episode 14, my conversation with Louise Ardern. My thanks to Daisy’s in Thorndon, Wellington NZ, for such a cool space to have an awesome conversation and a delicious Tamarillo-soaked gin. And my thanks to my amazing patrons who make these conversations possible. If you too would like to support this podcast, DM me for details, email me at james@butters.nz, or head straight to patreon.com/butters.