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Episode 48 of The Butters Podcast is my conversation with Jordan Lee. Available on all podcast apps, and on Patreon.

Feel the fear and do it anyway, present vs future, using the Calm mediation app, the pros and cons of being a perfectionist, learning techniques through a life coach, manifesting and meditation, being more compassionate to yourself, painting and photography, and more.

Thank you so much to my patrons for supporting the podcast and making this conversation possible. And if you’re keen to support this podcast as a patron, you can do so by signing up at https://www.patreon.com/Butters (link in the bio).

Also thank you to the wonderful people at Goods in Thorndon for the delicious coffee and such a lovely space to have a conversation.