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The United States has long heralded itself as a place where dissenters are welcome.  But the country has a long history of ideological exclusion that stretches to present day. We discuss this with historian Julia Rose Kraut who dissects this trend in her new book Threat of Dissent: A History of Ideological Exclusion and Deportation in the United States, and examines how PEN America played a role in fighting against such exclusion.