On this episode of the podcast, Josiah sits down with David Rennalls, pastor of discipleship at the MET Bible Church in Ottawa, Ontario. Together they discuss a couple of heavy and connected issues in the atonement of Christ and shame. Now, that may sound too abstract and high-minded to be of any practical use for you (not to mention uninteresting!), but Dave makes a strong case for why all Christians should strive to understand the atonement clearly, popular attacks often levelled against it, and how it is actually the good news for those of us wrestling with sin-wrought shame.