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In today's episode, Nick Warnes has a dialogue with Rob Douglas. Rob Douglas started Lightshine Church in Thousand Oaks, California, and he serves as a church planting coach for Cyclical LA, Cyclical Inc. and 1001 New Worshipping Communities of the PC(usa). Rob also works as a Developer with Cyclical Inc. for both Seattle and Spokane, Washington. Here are some quotes from today's interview: 

• ""Sorrow can have as much grieving room as it needs because joy knows it will have its place.""
• ""We are given permission to grieve.""
• ""We knew [the capitol riots] were going to be on our minds. We needed to create space for lament.""
• ""Lament is one of those things that needs to be able to breathe. Give it space."

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