Everything goin' Topsy Turvy this week as someone suggests Phoebus is 'just a discount Flynn Rider!' Come join the podcast that puts the Plus in Disney Plus, Talking The Mickey as Ethan's pick has us celebrating the Festival of Fools with Esmerelda, Quasimodo, Belle's Dad, and some guy trying to sell us Hot & Cool Hamburgers from McDonalds. Ellie, Georgia, Ethan, Ian, and Liam debate how dark is too dark for a Disney film, discuss why Frollo is mentioned enough when we consider the great pantheon of Disney villains, consider whether the gargoyles are actually alive or do they just exist in Quasi's mind, and ask ourselves if leaning so heavily into sitcom culture was the right feel for this film, Throw on some Disney Plus, catch up on some great Disney content and then join the conversation on Twitter (@talkthemickey) or Instagram (@talkingthemickey).