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We’re joined by returning special guest McCayla Butler!!!

It’s Dolly’s Birthday, and we talk about:

Joan of Arc and the origins of McCayla’s middle name

Dolly’s Croquet story

How to play croquet

Is Lavender a flower?

British vs American ways of saying things

McCayla roasts Dolly for a few minutes

The podcast jacket for the 5 timers

Dolly didn’t grow up in Wenatchee

McCayla questions if Erik actually went to college

Colleges in Walla Walla, WA

The Whitman missionaries story

Walla Walla is now the Napa Valley of WA

McCayla’s connection to Kristin Bell

2010 TV shows with Kristen Bell

Birthday etiquette: When to wish someone happy birthday

McCayla’s Back to the Future California trip this summer

San Diego

Erik hates being late

Triggers for Enneagram 6’s

Astrology signs and generic characteristics

Disturbing discovery about Retinol face cream

Many supplements have meat products in them

Growing up vegetarian and accidentally eating meat

Erik still hates condiments

Saying words with a fancy twist

What the word “Forever” means

The concept of Heaven and hell

Different views on what happens when you die

What is time?

Linear timelines and the human brain

Being an Elder Millennial

Understanding Millennials

The original distracted drivers: fiddling with CD cases while driving

Thieves don’t steal Christian stuff

Joel Osteen’s motivational audio books

And much more…