On this episode, I chat with Kathleen Elie who is currently the Chief Financial Officer at Urban Arts Partnership, a non profit organization that believes that "integrating the arts in every classroom disrupts the status quo in public schools, engages students, and boosts academic outcomes." Along with this position, she is also a self-proclaimed "hustler" as she wears many other hats: real estate agent, non-profit founder, and owner of a collection of investment properties. We deep dive into her desire to help people, financial literacy, and the true definition of success.