Finally podcasting with our son, Daniel, who turns 17 today! We talk about our hiking/camping experiences, including Havasupai! Daniel is not a big hiker, like mom, but he does love to travel and wants to visit National Parks! He talks about which National Parks he wants to visit but Mando needs to grow up a little more before he goes on big trips. Eddie and I have a great time podcasting with him. He tells us about the zone of death! WTF! Listen for shouts outs at the end! Happy Birthday Daniel!