In Episode #3 of The DeVaney Music Podcast, Ian DeVaney interviews Phil Joel, bassist for old-school Newsboys/Newsboys United and frontman for Zealand. In the episode, Ian and Phil discuss Phil's beginnings with the Newsboys, how the Gospel compels us to care for both our fellow man and Creation, Phil's recent book Redwoods and Whales: Becoming Who You Actually Are, and his brand new solo album Better Than I Found It!
